\u00cbsht\u00eb publikuar n\u00eb emisionin \u201cOpinion\u201d nj\u00eb regjistrimi t\u00eb ve\u00e7ant\u00eb, q\u00eb i p\u00ebrket dhjetorit t\u00eb vitit 1990. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb regjistrim d\u00ebgjohet nj\u00eb dialog mes Sali Berish\u00ebs, Edi Ram\u00ebs dhe Azem Hajdarit.
\nT\u00eb tre s\u00eb bashku m\u00eb piktorin Sali Shijaku jan\u00eb gjendur n\u00eb rrethana ende t\u00eb paqarta n\u00eb studion e nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr piktori t\u00eb njohur t\u00eb koh\u00ebs, Ramadan Karanxha.<\/p>\n
Ky i fundit ka patur asokohe nj\u00eb magnetofon me t\u00eb cilin ka regjistruar dialogun q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb zhvilluar n\u00eb studion e tij.<\/p>\n
Biseda Berisha-Azem Hajdari- Edi Rama<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Skandal \u2026Shiko ne po p\u00ebrpiqemi me qef, t\u00eb moderuar q\u00eb t\u00eb mos kemi p\u00ebrgjegjesi per kete .. po t\u00eb jet\u00eb p\u00ebr p\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsin\u00eb le ta mbajn\u00eb keta..<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Ta mbaj\u00eb le ta mbajn\u00eb, nj\u00eb gj\u00eb po ju them kjo q\u00eb po b\u00ebhet nuk b\u00ebhet p\u00ebr frik\u00eb, po b\u00ebhet p\u00ebr toleranc\u00eb, nuk po b\u00ebhet p\u00ebr frik\u00eb, n\u00ebse keta toleranc\u00ebn e marrin p\u00ebr frik\u00eb, bjeruni.<\/p>\n
Berisha:ouu .bravo \u2026 Shum\u00eb t\u00eb drejte ke.<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari. N\u00eb rast se gazeta neser n\u00eb ora 8 nuk del, e gjith\u00eb Tiranae di , do dalim rrim\u00eb aty\u2026<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Pse merr elementin m\u00eb asocial \u2026pse thua se prek njeri Enver Hoxh\u00ebn , pse ka frike e, un\u00eb se bej se jam tolerant karshi njer\u00ebzve, nuk dua t\u00eb plasi, jam tolerant karshi teje, se dua t\u00eb t\u00eb shpetoj ty. (: i referohen Ramiz Alis\u00eb)<\/p>\n
Berisha: Jo se ska ai ( serish i referohen Ramizit ) mbi shpatulla , se dime ne se ca ka ai mbi shpatulla , p\u00ebr mua gafa m\u00eb e madhe n\u00eb histori ka q\u00ebn\u00eb kjo, ky q\u00eb n\u00eb fillim ti thoshte popullit shikoni, Enver Hoxha , ka dy momentet , nj\u00eb moment histori ju them 1, 2 sa ka p\u00ebr historin\u00eb ato do i b\u00ebjn\u00eb historian\u00ebt, por kulti i tij, p\u00ebrtok\u00eb , trashegimia e tij njihet apo jo, ta kishte b\u00ebr\u00eb me koh\u00eb do kishte qen\u00eb m\u00eb mir\u00eb ,por e the bukur (i referohet fjalis\u00eb s\u00eb Ram\u00ebs ), jo se si njohin, edhe femija i njeh ato , por kjo po b\u00ebhet p\u00ebr toleranc\u00eb<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : kjo po behet p\u00ebr diplomaci, ti ma merr p\u00ebr frik\u00eb.<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Po b\u00ebhet diplomaci p\u00ebr \u00e7\u00ebshtj\u00eb komb\u00ebtare.<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: bile per kundrazi, e par\u00eb gje q\u00eb ai duhet tju dij\u00eb p\u00ebr nder \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo kete duhet tju di per nder, per kete duhet tua japi e tju thot\u00eb faleminderit. Jo fare fare atje, e n\u00eb fund far\u00eb t\u00eb vij\u00eb edhe atje, e ti shkojne keshtu\u2026<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: tani, n\u00ebs\u00eb pengonj\u00eb gazeten\u2026.Ja tani n\u00eb gazet\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb proklamat\u00eb, ftoj popullin n\u00eb rruge e n\u00eb miting<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: Q\u00eb sonte ta shp\u00ebrndajm\u00eb gazet\u00ebn. Nga fundi i tiran\u00ebs deri n\u00eb fillim<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha : N\u00eb rast se na pengojn\u00eb\u2026<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Kur duhet t\u00eb dal\u00eb gazeta?<\/p>\n
Berisha dhe Hajdari: Neser duhet t\u00eb dal\u00eb.<\/p>\n
Berisha : Ja sa m\u00eb erdhi njeri, se dini ju, nga shtypshkronja dhe thot\u00eb q\u00eb pun\u00ebtoret thon\u00eb q\u00eb ne se bejm\u00eb. Kan\u00eb fut informator. Thon\u00eb qe kan\u00eb ber\u00eb 20 mije informatore kan\u00eb shperndar\u00eb pas ngjarjeve t\u00eb ambasadave<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : O prefesor shiko tani ( i drejtohet Berish\u00ebs) ata kan\u00eb nj\u00eb arm\u00eb q\u00eb ne se kemi, ata kan\u00eb paciperine, ata jane te pacipe<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Shum\u00eb e vertet\u00eb<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Ti do t\u00eb b\u00ebsh kultur\u00eb, ata jan\u00eb te pacipe<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha : Absolutisht<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Ai thot\u00eb shyqyr, e b\u00ebn budallain, deri n\u00eb fund ska turp<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari : Un\u00eb \u2026.<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Po sikur ta marrim fjalimin e atij ta zberthejme, si qenka kjo pa lidhje, si na ndodhi kjo pun\u00eb kshu?<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: jo shiko ketu, e po na nxorren pengesa, do t\u00eb jemi ultimatik<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari : Un\u00eb \u2026.do dal te sheshi te Skend\u00ebrbeu, dhe me pushk\u00eb le t\u00eb na vrasin. Me ca t\u00eb dun, ne kena dal me vdek, ne n\u00eb \u00e7do miting q\u00eb shkoj, shkoj mos me u kthy ma. Shqiperine ta marri kush te doje ai qe jep\u2026 Por ama nj\u00eb gj\u00eb ta dini, ata sna ndalojn\u00eb dot, e po luftojm\u00eb per per tevendos kulture demokratike ne Shqiperi, po luftojm\u00eb p\u00ebr \u00e7\u00ebshtjen e Shqiptaris\u00eb e jo sic thote Enver hoxha per 40 vjetorin e konferences te Pez\u00ebs \u2026.\u201dpara nesh shtrohet \u00e7\u00ebshtja e pushtetit , do e marrim ne apo ata, e morem ne, na lumt\u201d Ne jo, ne s\u2019kena pun\u00eb pushteti<\/p>\n
Edi Rama ; Jo me jo, luft\u00eb p\u00ebr pushtet \u00ebsht\u00eb.<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari : Bie fjala , jo prit , pushtet n\u00eb interes t\u00eb Shqiptaris\u00eb ..<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : lufte per pushtet eshte. Cfar eshte ajo? Pushteti, s\u2019diskutohet ajo pune! Nuk meriton ai njeri. Ta thash\u00eb q\u00eb fillim, nuk meriton ai njeri, mos ja permendni emrin me.<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha : kush ja permend emrin atij, ne asnje miting , jo, vetem ne mitingun themelues, ne asnje miting tjeter si eshte permend me emri<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari : Me degju n\u00eb mitingun e shkodr\u00ebs\u2026<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Del thot\u00eb aty pa pik\u00eb turpi, Thot\u00eb q\u00eb jan\u00eb disa njer\u00ebz q\u00eb kan\u00eb programe\u2026<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: n\u00eb Shkoder i thashe une\u2026<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Ska kuptim<\/p>\n
Berisha: n\u00eb asnj\u00eb menyr\u00eb ska kuptim, e di kur kishte kuptim, do kishte po t\u00eb thoshte popull, \u00ebsht\u00eb ba ca \u00ebsht\u00eb ba ( b\u00ebr\u00eb).k\u00ebto jan\u00eb gabimet e bame, si politikan me eksperioence q\u00eb jam , shk\u00ebputem nga funksioni q\u00eb kam, a po m\u00eb pranoni t\u00eb konstribuoj, p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb mund\u00ebsi\u2026..<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Kush mor..kush me e bo<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: ai ftoi gjith\u00eb komunistat shqiptar n\u00eb konferenc\u00eb, dhe ia thash\u00eb n\u00eb shkod\u00ebr e ka ba p\u00ebr udh\u00ebheqjen<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: T\u00eb gjith\u00eb te thote, jemi fajtor\u00eb<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: nje gje tjeter, ti thu kan\u00eb bo gabim , ai sthot\u00eb asnj\u00ebher\u00eb q\u00eb ka bo nj\u00eb gabim, une sdi te kete permend ndonje gabim ai.<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari : por prap\u00eb e ruajti n\u00eb kushtetut\u00eb\u2026Burokratizmin nuk e lufton dot, burokratizmin e mesem nuk e lufton dot, me brigadiera , ne luftojme funksionar\u00ebt e lart\u00eb me ato qe kan\u00eb spekullu\u2026 do ti ruaj\u00eb k\u00ebto gjana, nese e lufton shume burokratizmin shoqeria shkaterrohet<\/p>\n
Edi Rama; Un\u00eb imagjinoj vetem nj\u00eb gj\u00eb , si behen ata kur shohin ato mitingje n\u00eb televizor , vet\u00ebm k\u00ebt\u00eb imagjinoj. Si b\u00ebh\u00ebn ata kur shohin ato turma q\u00eb ngrejn\u00eb duart, k\u00ebt\u00eb m\u00eb thuaj.<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Shiko ca b\u00ebjn\u00eb ata . P\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb nj\u00eb s\u00ebmundje, nuk dilja dot, nuk muj,e n\u00eb Kavaj\u00eb mu desh me dal n\u00eb miting,nga dashuria dola, mezi dola, kur dola me te vertete me merreshim k\u00ebmbet,te them te drejten, ca ban\u00eb kta , keto kane hap llafin n\u00eb gjitha deget e br\u00ebndshme se kam q\u00ebn\u00eb i dehur n\u00eb Kavaj\u00eb dhe i jane marr kembet<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari:E di e vertete mezi dalim nga mitingu . A di si dalim nga mitingu t\u00eb them une si dalim ,duhet me zbrit poshte e me lujt lojen e mitingut, t\u00eb merr turma te hyp lart, ngre duart lart e t\u00eb p\u00ebrcjell dy mij\u00eb meter n\u00eb shpine, mua dje n\u00eb Shkoder me moren e m\u00eb percollen, ne Elbasan te njejten gje\u2026..<\/p>\n
Edi Rama :keta e duan vetem me forc\u00eb duan keta asgj\u00eb tjeter.<\/p>\n
Sali Shijaku : \u2026\u2026.duhet t\u00eb futen n\u00eb parlament 25 -30% ne parlament<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: me 10 shkurt thua ti?nuk shkojm\u00eb fare.<\/p>\n
Sali Shijaku : edhe 4 vjet e dominon ai, me kete perberje , me kete fshatarsi se gjith\u00eb propogand\u00ebn e kan\u00eb n\u00eb dor\u00eb partia pun\u00ebs, pra 25deri 30 % po mundet me fut<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha : Shikoni tani ky 10 dit\u00ebsh \u00ebsht\u00eb deciziv, ti futemi pervec fshatit keto 10 dite sa t\u00eb mundemi me ba<\/p>\n
Edi Rama: Po ketej sdo shkoni, Tepelena, Gjirokastra<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Tepelenen e kemi mire..<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : po Gjirokastren<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: O sali po do shkojm\u00eb na kerkon dhe baza \u2026.<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha : Tepelene dhe Sarand\u00eb, nj\u00eb here pastaj Gjirokaster\u2026\u2026.. Shiko Pogradeci \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb i revoltuar se pse shkuem n\u00eb Korc\u00eb e nuk shkuem ne Pogradec. Shiko sieshte puna ata kerkojne kete atyre,se provinca eshte province gjithmone, ato e dine qe u legalizue por se besojne qe e legalizuam\u2026<\/p>\n
Sali Shijaku:\u2026ata kane jetu ne bajga te lopes e thone \u201crrofte Ramiz Alia\u2019 nuk dine gje ata fare.<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Shkodren e terrorrizuan ata<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : Nuk pyet Shkodra jo, shkodran\u00ebt spyesin.<\/p>\n
Sali Shijaku: \u2026te organizohet\u2026merr cuna te rinj, te paguajne te gjithe antaret, te mblidhni fonde, a i keni kerku, i registroni, a i jepni ato letrat?<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: te gjitha llogarite e kush don me ndihmu, aty<\/p>\n
Sali Shijaku: keto te hidhen ne fonde per agjetacion dhe propagande<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : O profesor ( i drejtohet Berish\u00ebs) po partin\u00eb e pun\u00ebs sdo e sulmoni direkt me emer, burokrat\u00ebt, burokrat\u00ebt, po partin\u00eb e pun\u00ebs direkt me emer<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: n\u00eb miting ..<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : n\u00eb miting ee.. Direkt me emer partia e pun\u00ebs, edhe partia n\u00eb pushtet ska rendesi<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari : Me emer me emer direkt<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha : edhe dje .. me emer ,bile thash\u00eb\u201csic ishte parimi i Enver Hoxh\u00ebs me hanger bar \u201c e thashe direkt me emen<\/p>\n
Edi RAMA : ueee<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: po edhe dje thashe ai ka pas kult individi dhe kane tere jeten vetem\u2026<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha : dhe na pengojne, cfar te besh vetem me nje makine, ku te shkosh me pare tani ne na duhen 5 makina 10 makina minimuni a kupto per tu shpernda<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: Q\u00eb t\u00eb shp\u00ebrndahen parullat.. ca mendimi keni?Mendimi \u00ebsht\u00eb\u2026q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i prer\u00eb t\u00eb mblidhemi t\u00eb rrijm\u00eb aty , meqe \u00ebsht\u00eb dhe deshira popullit aty te rrijm\u00eb derisa t\u00eb mblidhet kuvendi popullor, mblidhemi te shpia jeme, ska njeri me ardh aty<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Shiko , dakord jam me ty por \u00ebsht\u00eb presidiumi apo kuvendi e ka kete n\u00eb dor\u00eb?<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari : po presidiumi e ka<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: presidiumi \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb organ aq konservator e regresiv sa q\u00eb se imagjinoni dot<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: Do presim aty deri kur t\u00eb vijm\u00eb organizatat e partise, ushtri aty t\u00eb vijn\u00eb t\u00eb jepet urdhni, t\u00eb vij\u00eb perfaq\u00ebsuesit<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : Po ta b\u00ebsh n\u00eb\u2026. mund t\u00eb jet\u00eb e rrezikshme, por n\u00ebs\u00eb behet mitingu plot , kush do vij\u00eb t\u00eb nd\u00ebrhyj\u00eb po t\u00eb jene 80 mij\u00eb vete , kush do vij\u00eb , me 80 mije vete ketu nuk levizim, kush do vij\u00eb t\u00eb prishi pun\u00eb , Ketu nuk levizim, po ta marrin vesh \u00ebsht\u00eb frik\u00eb pastaj.nderhyjn\u00eb po ta marrin vesh para aty eshte frike<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: aty do jemi<\/p>\n
Edi RAMA: pas mitingut pastaj \u2026..<\/p>\n
Azem Hajdari: Shefi policis\u00eb tiran\u00eb ka deklarue q\u00eb jam dor\u00ebheqjen nga partia pun\u00ebs, shefi policis\u00eb<\/p>\n
Sali Berisha: Po Po ka dhan\u00eb intervist\u00eb, popo<\/p>\n
Edi Rama : Pash Zotin.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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